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Sugarlee

How much do you make per hour? Can you afford this kind of spending?

From NBC's Domenico MontanaroPutting the $106 million that Obama spent in the first 15 days of October in perspective...OBAMA'S OCT 1-15 SPENDING = $105,599,963.76That's more than $293,000 an hour.It's also 49% of EVERYTHING McCain has spent the entire time he has been running for president ($216,769,840).By contrast, McCain's Oct. 1-15 spending was $9,246,618.70 (or $26,000/hr). The RNC,s Oct. 1-15 spending: $45,189,239, less than a third of Obama's spending during the same period.Just wait. If he gets elected, you will see what his proposal of 800 billion dollars of additional spending will do to this country. 800 billion / 8760 hours in a year x 4 years in office = 22,831,050.23 dollars per hour of ADDITIONAL spending on programs such as universal healthcare and other mandated/ government run programs that Obama is calling for. Do you really think that the wealthiest 1% of Americans are going to fund that? If so, have fun living in poverty.
Sugarlee:

On the bright side, we will have that wonderful government controlled healthcare system that we will get from Obama at our expense. After 9 months of sitting on a waiting list to see a doctor, the care should be great. Just ask people in countries that have it, like Canada, Holland, Cuba, Russia (or any of the former Soviet States).

Svwhu:

I can tell you this much a McCain presidency would not be a picnic. I can find just as many negatives about McCain as you are trying to about Obama.

Sugarlee:

I do not disagree. If you actual read what I write, you would realize that. They both will be bad, but from policy proposals and non-partisan group findings, Obama will be worse. He calls for more spending than McCain, he calls for less across the board tax cuts than McCain, most of his proposals are either socialist or lean towards socialism, he has no military experience, he has very limited governmental experience and he wants to double or triple taxes on corporations, estate taxes, capitol gains taxes and oil companies which will lead to higher prices for consumers on every front from fuel to electricity to losses going into retirement from capitol gains. Plain and simple.

Sunni:

I make $18.- an hour but it will look more like minimum wage if he becomes pres. after he takes for this and that and gives to my neighbors and Islam.

Dunrunnin:

Whoa, Islam

Stonecold:

Get a clue

Sunni:

I got more than a clue. When is the last time a nominee went on a tour of the middle east during election time? Did he tell us what it was for? Did it influence our decisions in the right direction for him?

Gray wolf:

McCain uses the Tax Policy Center to prove that Obama's plan cost would cost the U.S. Treasury $2.7 trillion. He does not tell what his plan will cost because that same group says McCain's plan would cost $3.7 trillion.
@independant thinker you have been bamboozled.

Sugarlee:

Those figures are based on tax cuts, which McCain offers more of across the board. Secondly, those figures are based on tax collections and have nothing to do with spending. So, graywolf, you are the one being bamboozled not me.
Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified.
Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion. These projections assume the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire in 2010 and that the Alternative Minimum Tax is fully effective. Both candidates prefer to compare their plans to the "current policy" baseline, which would extend the 2001 & 03 tax cuts.

Gray wolf:

If the figures are based on tax cuts and McCain offers more tax cuts than Obama then McCain plan should cost less than Obama. Unless Mccain's plans cost more and it offsets the tax cuts.

Sugarlee:

So, Obama proposes 800 billion in additional spending while cutting taxes 2.9 trillion over 10 years. McCain proposes 459 billion in additional spending, cutting earmark spending completely, consolidating some government programs while eliminating others, initially freezing all spending other than defense and other vital functions, and cutting taxes across the board 4.2 trillion over ten years. Hmmmm.

Sugarlee:

The Obama camp is saying that McCains plan costs more, simply because the Treasury will not be making as much money. Therefore, they will not have that additional money to spend. That is why spending cuts and eliminating wasteful spending is vital. In the long run, both of their plans will cost ALL of us, but McCain's WILL actually cost us less. Not much less in the grand scheme of things, but around 500 billion less over the next ten years.

Gray wolf:

And yet the Tax Policy Center says McCain's plan would cost $3.7 trillion and Obama's plan would cost $2.7 trillion. Once of us is missing something. ( at least we are not arguing about something stupid:)

Sugarlee:

True, graywolf, it is not a stupid arguement. I do not like either candidate to be completely honest. I am not Republican or Democrat. I prefer to get my info from these non-partisan sources. The way I am reading it, is that yes, McCain's plan WILL cost THE TREASURY DEPT. 1.3 trillion dollars more than Obama's plan (4.2 tril vs. 2.9 tril) which is actually a better savings to taxpayers from McCain. The best I can determine as far as additional spending increases, is Obama calls for 800 bil while McCain calls for somewhere between 459 bil and 567 bil in additional spending over the next 10 years. Both of these plans are in addition to current spending levels. So, I will vote for McCain based on his higher tax cuts and lower spending across the board, but that is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Troutshoe:

His handlers really want that one to win ,they are pulling out all stops and spending allot of that oil revenue .

Still Changing:

No and I will have 2.Hi independent
thinker....

Sugarlee:

I think will will all have 2 mixer. Hi.

Svwhu:

Every election until this one, the republicans always out spend the democrats and they never complained when it was them doing it. At least he is spending it to get elected which is the reason people donate it. I don't think people donate it for them to go on extravagant shopping sprees at high end stores.

Svwhu:

Your guys ran up the biggest debt in history and now you think they should get another chance because, in your authoritative opinion the other guy is going to do more harm.
Rule #1) Don't reward the liars, the ones that did the harm, with another chance to do even more harm. Especially when their policies are the same or worse.

Sugarlee:

The number one cause of the financial crises this country is in is due to the sub-prime mortgage lending enacted during the Clinton administration. Alan Greenspan, the Treasury Secretary for 18 years, testified to that last week and accepted a portion of the blame. He conceeded that the Clinton administrations proposal was sound by most financial measures but many factors went against it that led to this crises. Secondly, on top of not being a Republican as you continue to say, the Republican party since Ronald Reagan has been publicly financed and governed by those laws. Clinton accepted more and Obama has accepted more than any Republican since 1980. And furthermore, Obama's decision to opt out of the public financing after challenging his oponents to accept it with him just shows one more reason why you cannot trust him.

Svwhu:

The subprime mortgage is everyones fault and it is the republicans, that were for the most part, the champions of deregulation. It is also the Bush tax cuts and his unwarrented war that has put this country in the financial state that it is in. McCain has not only flip-flopped on his position about Bush's failed tax policy, but now he wants to increase it even further. Tricle down economics are a proven failure. The middle class is failing because of it. Under McCain there will soon be only rich and poor in this country.

Sugarlee:

Whatever insightful! You should actually reasearch their plans. Yes McCain wants to continue the tax cuts beyond their 2010 expiration, but Obama DOES TOO. The main difference between their two policies is that Obama also wants to increase spending nearly twice what McCain does. They are both for alternative energy spending, they are both for continuation of the tax cuts, they are both for most of the same things. Obama is ONLY a better speaker than McCain and his only differences from McCain are his calls for larger government control of everything and his socialist push for that government control. Re-distribution of wealth, universal healthcare, government mandated control, social security. These are all Karl Marx' ideologies for the perfect socialist state! What can government do for you?

John P:

Welfare people can afford more than I can

Sugarlee:

They will be able to afford even more than you if Obama gets elected. His policies on social security and taxation are nothing more than a welfare program (according to the New York Times). 40 percent of American workers' do not even pay income taxes and Obama wants to give them returns from money he takes from the upper middle-class and richest 1 percent of tax payers, he wants to exempt people over 65 from paying income tax and he wants to increase the FICA taxes that workers pay to hand that over to those being exempted. He also wants to increase our payroll taxes by 5.6 percent for workers and 2 percent for employers.

Svwhu:

You will have even more people that need welfare provisions if you elect McCain! His policies will finish off the middle class.

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